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Post by Pat on May 21, 2017 11:52:34 GMT -5
Small trade between Buffalo and Tennessee:
Tennessee sends to Buffalo: Start-up #166 Rookie #63
Buffalo sends to Tennesse in return: Start-up #199 Rookie #44
Myself wants to close the gap between the last and the next pick in the start-up draft. The Titans will move up 19 spots in the rookie draft to get a TOP 50 Rookie.
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Post by memphismaniac on May 21, 2017 12:30:19 GMT -5
Good
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Post by esteban on May 21, 2017 12:55:51 GMT -5
-30 that is a huge jump up with a couple of high quality players left for BUF... as often stated before, i don't value rookie picks past the 3rd round very much, therefor the clear win in this one for BUF
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Post by hawksbacker on May 21, 2017 13:43:25 GMT -5
as i mentioned before: what sense makes it, to show the clear winner AgAIN of this (another trade) and nobody doesn`t seem to be interested in Clearly vote against it, or one owner changes the trade in value in favor of the less "wiining" trade partner...? I Don`t care anymore , i will enjoy this draft and never understand why people do not have the "Guts" to stand up and reject trades like this . esteban : We might not be always on the same page , but i agree with you in this case, that Rookies after the 3rd round are not as valuable as our start -Up Players. by the way , the Bills do own MY EAGLES Rookie 4th Round Pick , so it will be not a big loss for Buffalo to throw in a rookie 4th Rounder , anyway I am more than dissapointed....
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Post by Pat on May 21, 2017 13:52:13 GMT -5
What I don't understand:
A Top 50 Rookie should not be worth the same like a #166 Pick? When #166 is up there are not many more valued players. On the other hand with a Top 50 Rookie Pick, you can pick for the future. This pick won't give you help immediately but next season. I honestly thought this trade is equal or at best a -5 in my direction. That's why I said "a small trade"
Never thought this trade will get any bad respond.
It was a 2-3 message exchange with TEN and it was a deal. I know TEN and I know he knows fantasy football.
Sorry for all the trouble.
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Post by Pat on May 21, 2017 14:33:20 GMT -5
hawksbackerI also offered you to be a trade reviewer. But you didn't answer me. You are more then welcome to join the reviewer crew.
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Post by Pat on May 21, 2017 14:39:16 GMT -5
Here again the evaluation scale for every trade:
0 : Win-Win-Trade -15 to +15: One team has a slightly advantage in the trade -30 to +30: One team wins the trade and his franchise will get better -50 to +50: One team wins clearly the trade -65 to +65: Veto. This trade is bad for the league or one team looses the trade extremely -99 to +99: Big Veto. Who agrees to this kind of trade don't know the game or is complete insane!
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Post by Pat on May 21, 2017 15:34:33 GMT -5
We have a trade evaluation scale available. This scales helps to review trades in both directions. If the trade reviewer votes with +/- 65 - the means it is a veto an then both parties can talk about the trade and if add or remove players/picks to even this out. Example the Cincinnati Trade. We both couldn't agree what to add/remove so we just let the veto stand for itself and didn't bother to negotiate new.
Why reject the trade? It is reviewed with a -30.
"-30 to +30: One team wins the trade and his franchise will get better"
So in this case there is no veto, so why bother talking about it?
For sure it doesn't hurt me to throw a 4th Round pick in because I have another one. This came from a bunch of trades. I spent so much time, sending offers, thinking about offers and often get rejected with so many offers. "Hard works pays off" Everybody had still has the same opportunities to get some trades for their Team.
Even we both did a trade and was voted +30 also in my favour. Same trade value like the one with Tennessee now.
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Post by modameru on May 22, 2017 1:47:56 GMT -5
Stop this spot trading. Be a man and make your picks. Start trading players afterwards, when you see the weaknesses of your team and try to fix it then...
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Post by modameru on May 22, 2017 1:48:40 GMT -5
There is no such thing as a bad spot. There are only bad pics.
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Post by Pat on May 22, 2017 4:58:00 GMT -5
Stop this spot trading. Be a man and make your picks. Start trading players afterwards, when you see the weaknesses of your team and try to fix it then... Be a man?! What's the difference between trading spots and players? I know my weakness and trade a spot to get a player I need. Did you trade spots? Ah, I remember you traded to get Mack. Unfortunately you didn't get him because another team picked him earlier. Don't be mad bro! ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170522/9a3b68d52afb75d33bd8986100cfa1c0.jpg) #letsstartthetrashtalk
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Post by Pat on May 22, 2017 7:41:42 GMT -5
Stop this spot trading. Be a man and make your picks. Start trading players afterwards, when you see the weaknesses of your team and try to fix it then... Also, I know my teams weakness and see which players are going of my board at the moment. I am missing out on so much player which I never thought I would. So should I wait until all the players of my board are gone and then try to get the player via trade? No. That's why I traded up to have the chance to pick a player from my board. We both have different strategies and as long as the reviewers do their job and there is no veto I will trade picks if I see a need for it.
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Post by Pat on May 22, 2017 7:47:54 GMT -5
Here the players I had hopes to get which my teams really needs:
Zach Ertz, TE, Philadelphia Eagles C.J. Prosise, RB, Seattle Seahawks Everson Griffen, DL, Minnesota Vikings Kam Chancellor, DB, Seattle Seahawks Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Arizona Cardinals Mark Ingram, RB, New Orleans Saints Kevin White, WR, Chicago Bears Mike Gillislee, RB, New England Patriots Eric Ebron, TE, Detroit Lions Marcell Dareus, DL, Buffalo Bills Jack Doyle, TE, Indianapolis Colt Laquon Treadwell, WR, Minnesota Vikings
Should I wait another 30-35 picks and hope there are some left?
I don't know if you would or try to make a trade!
I really don't understand what's the problem is on trading picks and make such a big deal out of it!
Did anybody say something about your trade? Guess not!
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Post by Pat on May 22, 2017 8:01:57 GMT -5
Or maybe you still upset because you wanted Tampa Bays #4 Rookie Pick?
Guess you made an offer to TB but at the end mine was better and now I got that pick!?
My last statement on this topic:
All GMs knew fron the start of the league, trades are available to perform if you want. Use it, do it or not it is your own choice.
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Post by modameru on May 22, 2017 11:45:02 GMT -5
Relax bro, relax. I never get upset. I am the calmest person on earth. I just give my opinion and I guess I have a right to do so. Relax bro, relax...
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